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The Prohibition of Curing Magic by Using Magic – Explanation of the Statement of Sa’eed Ibnul-Musayyib

October 8, 2013

 

The following taken from lesson 31 on Kitaabut Tawheed given by Abul Abbaas Moosa Richardson ( http://www.troid.ca/index.php/aqeedah/tawheed/comprehensive-study/1085-explanation-of-kitaab-at-towheed-class-audio ). He is explaining chapter 27 of Kitaabut Tawheed (using Shaikh Fawzaan’s summarized explanation – al Mulakh-khas). This is part of what is in the written file for lesson 31 from this link (I edited it slightly with regards to things such as capitolization and spacing):

http://www.troid.ca/index.php/aqeedah/tawheed/comprehensive-study/1085-explanation-of-kitaab-at-towheed-class-audio

 

The student Abul ‘Abbaas Moosa Richardson said:

 

 

 

The text goes on..In the collection of al Bukhaaree on the authority of Qataada who said to Sa’eed ibnul-Musayyib: “There is a man who there is a magic spell placed upon him or its the case that he is unable to have intercourse with his wife, is it permissible to remove that from him by the nushrah? Sa’eed ibnul-Musayyib, great imaam of the taabi’een said: There’s no problem in doing that, no problem in using a nushrah so long as the intention is to correct something, to fix something, to bring about a good situation as for that which benefits then there is no prohibition regarding that.

That shows you Sa’eed ibnul-Musayyib understood there are two types of nushrahs and he mentioned “as for the kind that benefits then there is no prohibition against it”

And we don’t want to allow anyone to understand from this statement of Sa’eed ibnul-Musayyib what some people have understood mistakenly – that is that now you are allowed to cure magic with magic and [that] that is what Sa’eed ibnul-Musayyib intended, that you can cure magic by going to a magician and asking him to put a magic spell on you that will cure the previous magic spell and this is absolutely impermissible as the use of magic is kufr as has been clarified clearly and the seeking help of magicians is impermissible absolutely and we see that Sa’eed said “as for what benefits then there is no prohibition of it” as Allaah ta’aala described the practice of those people who would learn magic that they learned from those who would teach magic what would harm them and never benefit them. So there is no benefit in magic and Sa’eed ibnul-Musayyib understood that, he was not giving a fatwa in favour of using magic to cure magic rather he was giving a verdict in favour of using the ruqyah shar’iyyah to cure magic and that’s what we see from the words of the ulemaa in the correct understanding of that phrase.

And it has been narrated from al-Hasan – al Hasan al Basri rahimahullaah, another imaam from the taabi’oon “and no-one can remove sihr except as-saahir” (meaning no-one removes sihr by using a magical spell to remove it except that he himself has become a magician.)

And Ibnul Qayyim has said (and we are reading from the text of the book) the curing of magic from a person who has magic done to him, it is of 2 types.

1. To cure magic with another spell similar to it, to apply a magical spell to cure oneself or someone close to you of a magical spell that has been placed. That’s the kind that is from the work of the shaytaan and this is how we should understand the statement of al Hasan al Basri when he said “no-one removes magic –meaning like as a profession, using a magical spell except the magician similar to the magician who put the spell there in the first place, or the same magician

So that’s how we understand the statement of al Hasan, not that he thought that anyone who tries to remove magic by reading the Qur’aan must be considered a magician – that wouldn’t even make sense logically so al Hasan al Basri had to be referring to the process or the act of going to a magician to cure the magic spell using the nushrah that is not allowed and that would be the use of a magician and a impermissible thing in islaam.

And Ibnul Qayyim goes on to say…so they both (the naashir and the manshoor – the one who is sick or afflicted and the one who is doing the nushrah for him, the magician) they both get in contact with a shaytaan and they do the things that he requests from them that pleases him and thus he will remove the magical spell from the person who has had the magic placed on him.

  1. And the second kind of nushrah is the nushrah that is with a ruqyah meaning a ruqyah shar’iyyah – reading Qur’aan, making du’aa to Allaah alone, phrases of Tawheed, supplications to Allaah from the supplications that the messenger salallaahu alaihi wa sallam taught us and so son and reciting or seeking refuge with Allaah like reading qul a’oothu bi rabbil falaq and qul a’oothu bi rabbinnaas and those kinds of soorahs that we seek refuge with Allaah through the reading of those soorahs [and] the use of medicines – medicines that are of course permissible and the open general supplications. Any nushrah that’s based on these things is permissible.

Look at the basis of the therminology that is very important [see troid.ca slides]. The first one is nushrah jaahiliyyah – the nushrah that was known as the word nushrah from jaahiliyyah and that is that a person uses amulets, he uses magical spells, he uses the mumbling of certain phrases that he doesn’t understand, the ruqyah ghayru shar’iyyah in general, he uses all of that, that is forbidden, that is what is a kind of work of the shaytaan and that is what al Hasan al Basri considered to be the cure of magic is done by a magician in this case.

The second possible meaning of the word nushrah is an-nushrah shar’iyyah – the nushrah that is allowed in islaam and that is to cure a magical spell with the use of the qur’aan, by reading the qur’aan over the afflicted area, asking Allaahu ta’aala with ones Tawheed, calling upon Allaah by his beautiful names and attributes, taking medicines which are proven to work that are permissible in their substance, in their makeup and so on – these are the nushrahs that are allowed – the permissible forms of curing magic.

The speech of the scholars should be understood in light of these two kinds of nushrah to avoid confusion on the issue.

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